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Matt and Matt from rowthree.com's MAMO podcast have invaded the Substream studio! And all because Mike said some bad things ...
about the Harry Potter movies.
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[Movie Playing] Matthew Price: My name is Matthew Price, you may not recognize you may recognize my voice from the fabulous podcast channel. What is going to happen is these two gentlemen are going to be debating a relative lyric of the Harry Potter franchise of films and films along so the idea will be that on my left Matt Brown also of Mamo but there is no absolutely no bias on the right might from the Substream. We will be arguing the Pro’s and Con’s of the Harry Potter film franchise whether that film franchise is in fact of any kind of lapsing quality whether it will stand a test of time. [Movie Playing] Let’s go look first opening statement but we we’re going to start with Mike. Go. Mike: Thank you very much for joining me here for this debate, my position is fundamentally this the Harry Potter release is crappy except said fancy and convincing. Furthermore, that there are fundamentally a disposable pointless series of adaptations of an incredibly popular book series that are popular incredibly popular and billions of dollars each one grows and almost the billion of dollar in fact but popular in the same way they toll were popular and fallen with the height of tool of mania all the way that lead pipe plumbing and it was popular in Rome before and it is my position that there are bad movies and nothing it one. Matthew Price: Go. Matt Brown: I take it contrary view, I think the films are work part of sort of birth of the new fantasy movie in film and there is you know there is little one before with the one right now Harry Potter was a foundational entry in that and I think that regardless of whatever phenomenon surrounds now there is a level of fashion to adjustment the film craft that is actually going to stand a test of time if you look at them as movie there are exceptional well made movies and there are also a project on like kind of anything in settlement just because of the reach of the things. The size and the franchise and the size and the cast watching his kids grow up over ten years and how might be part of the story telling. I think it makes it meaningful in a way that really know what are the film franchise has that, it doesn’t make it the best of all time but makes as a significant back into the genre. [Movie Playing] Matthew Price: I’m going to— I guess asking about series of question so Mike yes. I guess I don’t want a pair your filter disposable, what makes them disposable is it the film making or is it the stories themselves? Mike: I would argued to this book and put them in the context of the 100 year history of the film making as a series of films and not as a series of things pertaining to books, the only series that not guided in any way by one single unifying vision there are interchangeable directors and the majority of being are people like Christopher Columbus I think that this is a series of films design to make money in middle east. Matthew Price: Accepting the point but the directorial authorship is not a priority of the series? Matt Brown: Yes. Matthew Price: Thus you feel that in some way we give to its value. Or its an script. Matt Brown: No, well I do think it’s a script and kind of the other movies because that’s another series of work the directorial vision is not maintain to the series but I mean I’m concern each more for at least have some mirror as a direct to the problem so I have no problem in involving with director I don’t think that it’s a weakness of the franchise. Matthew Price: And the fair of apogee given how distend to the point. Mike: I think that it’s unfair and let the four records that direct with the alien films or each director who are known for having this visions. However, I do think that it’s a great comparison that you franchises because the Harry Potter films like for the aliens film when you sit down and watch them all you can get to ended and like I did in the anime or the end of the last and I have no idea actually to what’s happening. [Movie Playing] Matthew Price: Question period is over, we are going to get to be crowding us. I think since you make let them I going to let start so as you soon as you get boring I’m going to stop. And go. Mike: The thing that I hate most with the Harry Potter film is that I’ve seen ten plus hours of cinema at this point. And I cannot remember a single remarkable, memorable scene from many of them. Matt Brown: Sort of depends when you want them through balance I tried to them to remember to more memorable of the movies and what person of Azkaban and sort of stand is like that out to complete disc as the work as movie is even divorce from the franchise as the whole. Mike: There are so many people in them, they have two way to confusing back story. Everyone that watch of these movies watches them because they like the books and they’re watching some kind of goofy adaptation of the book that they have in the love. The movies do not have enough stories in them to exist as just movies. Matt Brown: Third one really is a stand along story despite this thing that happen with Harry at that time. And the six one is kind of a detour in the old story. Stops before the story one for second and just sort of tells all little thing to be and turning into Hogwarts especially in movie I can actually even more sort on the board. Mike: They have to exist in a context that’s why do we need so much money because they have the HP part of them and you can’t say that they stand alone on there own its like saying Star Wars the original 3D film would have been a better series if there had been an anteroom film between two and three that explore of looking a forest and what it was feeling. Matt Brown: And this outline of the very essence of the publish Star Wars three films is a much short of story seven times will allow to going to a much longer in there complex are and they’re can be those little detours it’s more like a mini series or a season of the show. Matthew Price: Is proud of your problem the facts that they’re design to make money thus not buying in and out himself make them back. Mike: No, every films is trying to make money but there is a certain level of artifice that calling with they instruct it says hey this is just about money this is about entertainment and that level of artifice is not, this is the mercenary exercise in maximizing problem at the expense of originality and taste. Matthew Price: What are the memorable scenes and moments? Matt Brown: Dragging the point in the time travel thing which allow accept and quit movies about like them learning there little wizard school like sub school with billion army. You know I’m soccer for any of the expo when Hermione getting off of her shoes and sees in the stairs and cry and like I’ve seen that real life. [Playing Movies] Matthew Price: I really feel struggle with both of you did the excellent and adorable job of communicating your basic position here so we’re going to go on the final stage and this is the closing segment. Since we begun with Mike at the first time we are going to let Mike to clean up and Mr. Brown you’re going to start. Matt Brown: Okay I just want to say what I said about there is no other project like this in films. If there is one natures change of the cap the Dumbledore because of his hair but other words we’ve got to watch all this people most of them are children grew up over ten years and that actually informs the story this is a massive story of a growing up and that’s why I think you will always give of them because those kinds of things always happening. Come to a time when kids are going to need to know how to grow into moral adults that’s for life so I think they’re dumb wrong. Matthew Price: Mike your turn. Go. Mike: You write that it’s a new shrink project that is happen over ten years unfortunately it’s been ten years explains seven years in there lives of characters and that was started that one they were 12 or 13 which is the interesting project and it was a broke about written for 12 years and then a book about 14 year old and written for 14 year and so on and so on. The movies unfortunately don’t match that taste so now where in the position we were watching 21 and 22 year old acting like 17 year old that don’t actually exist because every 17 year old in the world smoke weed and has sex and not other than to the forest drinking a beer. Matthew Price: It’s now up to you maybe you decide who is right. As always I am Matthew Price and myself and Matt Brown can be found online at www.rowthree.com where our podcast is minimal it’s available for instant any of download. Matt Brown: And will be at Harry Potter next week. Matthew Price: This has been the great Harry Potter debates of 2010.