Erik Michielsen: At this moment in your life, where are you seeking advice and coaching?

Hammans Stallings: Once you kind of move beyond what is, say normal, you know, you can't necessarily rely on the typical career development advice for people who've been, say in a field for a while or in an industry for a while. And so, you have to kind of, I think, find other references, other referent ways of changing. And so I -- I increasingly look across fields. So, I look to find people who are flourishing and thriving in an environment that may be very different than mine, say, you know, academics or say, team sports, and you start to understand what helped them get to that point of mastery and starting to recreate that in my life. So, you have to kind of abstract away from the immediate, kind of, say details, and find people who've lived in analogous kind of situations, but may not be in your field. That means being able to identify them and then create relationships where they may not readily be and luckily, and oftentimes, people will actually have blogs where they’ll write, or they'll, you know, sometimes will be open to having those conversations.