Hello and welcome insight skip -- -- -- -- and joining me as Josh Lowenstein senior writer for CNET. Thanks for being less pleasure it's been awhile since we've chat it. What brought us together again Apple rumors and a weird one that -- television okay it's a watch -- to watch OK so where did these watcher overstepped. They really come from China and they come from Foxconn -- rocket rumors that all -- -- rumors come from. That -- -- stemmed from two reports one from the New York Times and once the Wall Street Journal. That kind of all come around this idea that Apple's -- So it -- -- the sources. Pretty much people in the supply chain -- is kind of confusing. On the -- -- they're toying around this idea in Cupertino and it has been doing that for years and -- Hiring and years -- working prototypes. For the glass like device that's -- Yet so that less that would wrap around your wrist at all. I don't know about alt left at the possibility that -- -- the -- in -- that Verizon. You don't fall this thing and at times I can't deal last. So it doesn't make sense for Apple let's let's just take a step back after this a logical next step for Apple as a business I mean I do note that -- that project that made ten million dollars -- kick starter. -- obviously made -- -- -- -- -- punches as a space in their bunch of other -- efforts as well so it is that Apple's getting into. I think it's really sinks anything about watches in -- is a Smart phone and phones in general kind of oblivion the need for you just don't -- -- and you'll always know what time it is. Of the -- -- -- devices like Nike fuel band but obviously that after mention parable the Jawbone up. Also it's -- new technologies are coming out to do things more than just help time. I'm so if you look at something like a watch that's may be running IOS you know the possibility of apps -- the possibility all the sensors and sending data back and forth. There's a lot of applications that. -- also a new thing to -- Yeah exactly it is Apple looking for anything -- I mean what what are your thoughts. There are and then everybody's been documented televisions next big thing the problem -- TV or even set top box. It's that you buy -- might not replace it every once in while trick something that's on you all the time something where they can have a lot of variations. That's just like the I found that just like yet -- -- something that you might apply in. Can get more aware Terry might replace or exactly all right well we'll keep an eye on -- much space that will watch the watch space as a -- and you keep us honest on the rumors that point just thanks so much a pleasant. -- I'd skip right to be excellent.