Now rollers you can guys smooth the surface rollers. You can buy the different grace again from the bottom good, better, best, and that way you are getting a much smoother and much better applied product but down towards the end here. Let’s go down a little bit deeper and we will get into a real fluffy one look at here. Now that’s fluffy. Now that is used for doing as a states rough surfaces so may be concrete. It could be stucco, it could be even a ceiling that’s stippled but I prefer using the foam that is slit for that ceiling especially if it is stippled because you will see here it has got slits about every quarter inch that way it works right around all those little dimples on the ceiling and give you a nice complete finish job and if you are doing ant texturing, you can use texture rollers actually texture, the stucco on the ceiling..