I must tell you that it is not totally, innocent in the sense that it takes for the interest of some people in power in the west and in the abroad to keep this conflict on. You see, I don’t see—if you’re talking, if we think about the term pleasure from civilization it is terrible because it is—it doesn’t make sense because it was—we had never in history a clash of civilization.

Why because, if you are civilized you are tolerant and if you are tolerant, you are civilized, there was never a clash between civilizations. The clash was between kingdoms and empires to control more money and power. And that’s exactly what is still happening, you see. I believe that it is the question of knowledge you must get closer to each other we must know that we could be different in many aspects but we are human beings. We must know that nobody has the right to think that we are the good guys and you are the bad guys this is not true.

If you're talking about the other boy, the other boy has been suffering from terrorist, from terrorist as much as the west. You see Osama bin Laden is not talking in my name and Osama bin Laden is not talking in the name of millions of Arabs. Most of the Arab word, the best majority of the Arab words uses Osama bin Laden is a condiment and terrorist you see.

And also I don’t think that George Bush to me has the right to present the west. You see to me George Bush is not presenting the west. I would say Ernest Hemmingway is presenting the west but not George Bush. George Bush is presenting the Martin and Channel Corporation you see. And this is very important to have the right vision of the word and see to get closer and to see that people are people everywhere. And the conflict is not between civilizations, the conflict is between the people who would like to make more money and they don’t care about the human values.

And the ordinary people see the world divided into two sides, to the human—in the human side and the non-human side. On the human side most of the people are on the human side. In the west in the Arab world in India and China I mean there are ordinary people who would like to work very hard to get better education for their children. You see and to have a free world and a life was much respect in human rights. And you have the none human side where, where the imperialistic people like Mr. George Bush and Dixon you are presenting the multi national corporations they are on that none human side the terrorist like Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda and these sorts of people our Arab dictators.

And dictators all over the world are on the non-human side and I believe that this is the real conflict you see and it’s not the conflict between is no boost.